Wednesday, May 19, 2010

Papanca and Dependent Origination, Part 2

From Thanissaro Bhikkhu's translation of Paticca-samuppada-vibhanga Sutta: Analysis of Dependent Co-arising

Basic Chain of Dependent origination (also translated as dependent co-arising, co-dependent arising):

And what is dependent co-arising? From ignorance as a requisite condition come fabrications. From fabrications as a requisite condition comes consciousness. From consciousness as a requisite condition comes name-&-form. From name-&-form as a requisite condition come the six sense media. From the six sense media as a requisite condition comes contact. From contact as a requisite condition comes feeling. From feeling as a requisite condition comes craving. From craving as a requisite condition comes clinging/sustenance. From clinging/sustenance as a requisite condition comes becoming. From becoming as a requisite condition comes birth. From birth as a requisite condition, then aging & death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, & despair come into play. Such is the origination of this entire mass of stress & suffering. (SN 12.2)


So:
ignorance-->fabrications
fabrications-->consciousness
consciousness-->namarupa (name and form)
namarupa-->six sense media
six sense media-->contact
contact-->feeling
feeling-->craving
craving-->clinging/sustenance
clinging/sustenance-->becoming
becoming-->birth
birth-->dukkha (aging & death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, despair)

Now, going back to papanca. Here's the sequence that Thanissaro Bhikkhu derives from the Ball of Honey sutta:

contact > feeling > perception > thinking > the perceptions & categories of papañca


So the overlap seems to be the movement from contact (with sense organ) to feeling. In DO, craving comes after feeling. In PAP, perception and thinking (which leads to categorizing) comes after feeling. Craving, I suppose, is a mind state? So both signal the movement from the body to feeling to mind states?

Ah, and in looking back at the entry on defining papanca that "craving" is considered to be one kind of papanca. Says Than Geoff:

The Pali Commentaries define papañca as covering three types of thought: craving, conceit, and views.

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